He took the gun back. If you slip when cocking the hammer you can set a cap off. New in Box-never fired. By using this site, you agree to our Terms of Use. You are to be congratulated in Choosing the BEST designed Black Powder Percussion revolver on the Market! So I fire the shotgun first now, and cuss at the rammer, and have 9 chambers of wholy fun otherwise. The used value of an ARMI SAN MARCO pistol has fallen ($12.42) View more auctions here. - 2) a few of the triggergaurd and backstrap screw heads have flaked a bitcosmetic only so far. Youve done a real service to fellow shooters there. One of the knocks against the 1858 Remington is that the cylinder tends to bind on the cylinder pin as the pistol gets fouled, and Bore Butter, or even some Crisco, helps keep that cylinder turning smoothly all day long. .. when I first tried sass back in the nineties this brand was Quite popular .. now that Ive returned to sass after ten plus year, never here or see any thing , Just curious mostly as they been sit in in my safe for over ten years.. they were fun to shoot for someone who couldn't afford real guns like me STAN. WebThe 1858 Remington New Army is both a beautiful collectors piece and a rugged side arm. I found that mis fires and hang fires happened all the time. I know we are here because our forefathers were able to bring down food with primitive firearms. In 1993, the Hartford line was introduced by E.M.F. Perfect for display and target shooting. Cleaned properly, and loaded properly, a Remington Style Percussion Revolver, can be as reliable as a modern Cartridge gun. Thanks. To date I have only had two minor issues with it: - 1) the firing pin retainer had to tapped in a bit as dragged on the frame very mildly, local smith fixed that in 2 seconds. Actually it was because of the pony on the grips AND the name, Colt won the lawsuit. Mechanically fine., s/n C216xx, 44 BP; 90% blue, good bore, good grips, 7.5'' barrel, Made in Italy. The 1858 is the modern name for the Remington New Model Army/Navy revolvers, which were introduced circa 1863. 1883 Burgess Manual. You should have. I bought a pietta model 1858 used and still havent fired it yet. Sounds like the name of a shady character lurking in the wisteria of some Flannery OConnor story, doesnt it? On the other hand if you order over the Internet, there is a very high probability that at least one U.S. alphabet agency will have a record of your activity. WebRemington 1858 Armi San Marco 44 Black powder loading and shooting 4,144 views May 17, 2015 37 Dislike Share Save Harri Miettinen 68 subscribers Subscribe Shooting I haven't had a lick of trouble out of it, other than losing the ejector housing screw. WOODEN GRIPS ARE 44 Caliber; 95% blue, near mint bore, near mint grips, 8'' barrel, REPRODUCTION 1858 NEW MODEL ARMY REVOLVER IN NEAR MINT CONDITION. 6d 19h left (Thu, 11:33 AM) $29.95 Buy It Now +$7.95 shipping Sponsored Genuine ASM & CVA - Stop Bolt - For Remington 1858 Revolver - Armi San Marco New (Other) $27.95 Buy It Now +$3.99 shipping Sponsored A quick look netted this info from a CAS City post: ASM was one of the first Italian manufacturers back in 1960 along with Uberti. I have three Sheriffs Models, and consider them SO GOOD, I carry one every day for Self-Defense! This was suggested by a good friend and serious black powder target shooter who has a couple of the 1858s. http://www.1858remington.com, a.k.a. Oil finished walnut stock with 44 BP; 97% blue, good bore, good grips, 7.5'' barrel, Made in Italy. Dear Mr. Nickel, I do remember an article about this first revolver in that it was so exactly copied from an original that even experienced Colt collectors had difficulty in telling the prototype from an original. Web* Armi San Marco, copy of Remington Model 1858, .44 cal, s/n 61367, black powder revolver. And if both Buffalo Bill and Clint Eastwood liked it in different centuries, you know its got to be good. re-grease, assemble, and go shoot for another year! It has never been fired, came in the original box with the original booklet, and is in excellent condition. For more recent exchange rates, please use the. I did not grease the shutgun one time and thought to fire it last. Though the guns be identical, the first is free of any legal imcumberance, while the second has an FFL holder and a waiting period to deal with. On opening day he is in his blind and simply waits for a really good buck to come along. I do have to give credit to ASM for the fact that most of their reproductions were historically correct. He took the gun back. hello again my good friends , I have a couple sets of BP cap/ball one is a mixed set of open top 1-36 navy and a 44 navy/army and the other is a set of 1858 new army is 44 any how was thinkin of pull-in them out of the safe and maybe doing a tune up ,try to soffen those big springs but don't see any thing on them any more , not a mention , were these "junk " guns .? There is a wide variance in rifles, and I have seen it claimed that range is no more than 100 yards. All Armi San Marco black powder cap and ball and cartridge conversion models were discontinued in 2000. Pietta "1858" CCH Hammer with lowered Spur by Ol' #4 30.00 + 2.75 shipping via USPS Selling as a set: Pietta Hammer, Trigger, Hand w/spring, Bolt/Trigger Spring and Hammer Spring 23.00 shipped. Not to mention that shooting 58 Remington reproduction is just an absolute hoot. Blued finish, plain walnut grips. All Armi San Marco black powder cap and ball and cartridge conversion models were discontinued in 2000. RO11, Cowboy Mounted Shooting, Hunting and Cowboy Action Shooting, Parts are still available on a limited basis from. This may a bit late, but I just got here. Thanks Dan. He took the gun back. COPYRIGHT 2021, THETRUTHABOUTGUNS.COM. The Colt uses a "rampant" pony where the ASM is a pony just standing. Frankly, I like the 45LC version better. Chat with us; Phone us at (616) 432-6640 . Actually, percussion caps come in slightly different sizes, as do nipples. They thought if they started raising the price on their guns to in the, same range as Uberti that all the problems would go away. Chiappa (I visited them too) it a totally different story, rather "big" factory. Ryw, they sued, but I thought it was because "people would see PeaceKEEPER and think it was a PeaceMAKER". 44 BP; excellent bore, good grips, 8'' barrel, Made in Italy. oops! A black powder gun IS NOT considered a fire arm! I have been cleaning black powder revolvers for almost 50 years. Finish in very good condition with some scratches and nicks. Amounts shown in italicized text are for items listed in currency other than U.S. dollars and are approximate conversions to U.S. dollars based upon Bloomberg's conversion rates. And if you happen to have another pre-loaded cylinder with you, PRESTO! In between, he was granted US Patent No. 44 BP; fair bore, good stock, 4'' barrel, Made in Spain. New in Box-never fired. Blued finish, brass triggerguard, with walnut grips. I've been told these ASM revolvers' parts interchange with Colt 1st generation. Lot 429: Armi San Marco Reproduction 1858 Revolver Two Reproduction Percussion Revolvers Auction Date: November 3, 2016 Estimated Price: $ 200 - $ 500 Price Realized: Details A) Armi San Marco Model 1858 Remington Revolver with Matching Box Manufacturer: ARMI SAN MARCO Model: 1858 Type: Revolver Gauge: 44 percussion WebThis conversion cylinder assembly will convert your 1858 Remington ASM, Uberti or Pietta steel or brass .44 cap and ball revolver to fire .22 cartridges. Tsk tsk. Mounted Shooting 1873 Rifle Cleaning Instructions. The ball is further squeezed when it enters the forcing cone. But its not hunting. 21478. It just looks cooler (IMO) than the navy, walker, or dragoon. See 18 U.S.C. Either way, a good dose of lube also helps keep the black powder fouling moist and pliable, and easier to clean out. That's your build date. Same thing with the barrels. I loaded it to Piettas speck of 15 grains, and the ball didnt make it past the forcing cone. Well its interesting still. He carried a nickel plated 8 Remington 1858 and a peacemaker. Fine. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. One good smack on the percussion caps, and BOOM! The Colt type sighting was crude, to say the very least! Black Powder Revolver Manual. They supplied American retailers with replica firearms over the 1960s thru 1990s. If yoiui can keep all six shots in a four inch circle, at whatever range you think you are likely to see a deer, then take your Remington Percussion Revolver hunting. Most folks shoot them with charges down in the 20-grain range. They make the guns for different companies and the workmanship is terrible. Wow, TTAG must be monitoring my TV; this review came on here while Im watching The Good, The Bad, and The Ugly. I had a few ASMs in the very early days. I just purchased an ASM replica of a 1858 Remington 44 and was wondering if anyone had any information about it. I had the same problem. Tops all my Glocks, Berrets, Sigs, ARs, AKs etc. 1899. A) Armi San Marco 1858 New Model Percussion Revolver. Used, bore is dirty, grips are worn. My 1858 is an Uberti model previously owned by a North-South Skirmish Association member. ; 98% blue, excellent bore, excellent+ grips, 7 1/2'' barrel, UBERTI REPRODUTION OF A COLT 1872 OPEN TOP REVOLVER IN EXCELLENT+ CONDITION. In a way, you could say it was two guns in one! A friend of mine purchased a 1874 Sharps repo made by them a few years back for a Christmas gift for his son. Didn't happen though. 1876 Rifle Manual. Question of the Day: Do You Worry About Unarmed Loved Ones? Colt .36 with 21 grains. The 12 month average price is $290.50 new and $284.87 used. I load as follows: I took 2 quick shots at about 70 yards (yes, too far, I know) one round hit its head, the deer dropped. Fordyce Beals knew what he was doing. Rare US coins, Carson City, Nevada history, Redheads. Or even from New York? The .44 Remmington is a very strong gun. Finish in very good condition with some scratches and nicks. ). I shot ASM 58's in my early years. Bluing on the barrel is in very 36 Caliber; 92% blue, very good bore, very good grips, 7.5'' barrel, Westerner's Arms 1851 Navy 6 shot revolver, .36 caliber black powder. At that price, I bought it. Grips for the Uberti 1873 Cattleman El Patron Grizzly Paw New Model as well as the 1860 and 1872 Colt army made by Cimarron, Pietta and Uberti. When Puma started having the 92's made by them instead of Rossi in Brazil, they increased the prices but not the workmanship. Model: 1858. In the .44 version, each of the six chambers can hold up to 40 grains of black powder. The ASM firing pin holes in the recoil shields weren't hardened so they tend to develop a dimple that the primer flows in to binding the cylinder. Armi San Marco 1858 Remington Black Powder replica. And be sure to get the correct version of conversion. Second Media Inc., 30800 Telegraph Rd, Suite 1921, Bingham Farms, MI 48025 USA. WebArmi San Marco ASM 2nd Model Dragoon ASM 1847 Walker ASM 1849 Pocket ASM 1849 Wells Fargo ASM 1858 1863 pocket ASM 1860 Army ASM 1861 Navy ASM 1862 1849 Wells Fargo ASM 1873 Single Action ASM 1892 Categories Armi San Marco Beretta Pedersoli Uberti Pietta Armi Sport [Chiappa] IAB [Pedretti] Sharps KIRST WW II RIBBON USS SAN MARCOS LSD-25 NAVY*EMBROIDERED POLO SHIRT/SWEAT/JACKET. As I got older and learned about black powder, the Remington pre-cartridge design just intuitively looked stronger. DO use a stout load. This version features improved accuracy. Despite my kill, in my opinion, its not strong enough but fun as a backup which is why I used it. Finally, different guns will perform differently with different sized balls (or conicals), and that is something to experiment with as well. ASM was so bad, even ASM parts seldom fit. I shot it again in the side and it stop rolling around. There will be no records if you send a physical order and payment via U.S. Post Office, FedEx, UPS, DHL, etc. A standard 1858s barrel measures eight inches. The Colts often did have short safety pins at the back of the cylinder which could be engaged with the notch in the hammer nose, to accomplish exactly the same thing however. SOLD Get an UpLula magazine loader. Great writeup of a gun that has been on my list for a while. Dont ever get law and logic mixed up; they have nothing in common. BORE IS VERY GOOD WITH SHARP RIFLING. If yu put a comment on his page, and advocate water to clean guns, he will immediatly foam at the mouth, delete your posting, and then tear a strip off your rear end for DARING to disagree with him! Unbelievable what has happened to the price of Old Army since Ruger quit making them. Safety pins, safety notches, po-TAY-tow, po-TOT-owe. Hes got an 1858 Remington in each hand, and looks like at least two more on his belt. The safety notch feature makes it easy to safely carry a fully-loaded 1858 Remington. WebArmi San Marco Black Powder Revolvers Remington 1858 Army & Navy Parts List Sort by: Show Available 0 Schematic w/ Parts List 1 Barrel 2 Barrel Stud 3 Loading Lever Latch 4 Loading Lever Latch Spring 5 Latch Pin 6 Loading Lever 7 Loading Lever Link Pin 8 Loading Lever Link 9 Plunger 12 Loading Lever Screw 13 Base Pin 14 Cylinder 16 Bolt 17 All you have to do is go inside of a gun made by them and you will see how bad it is. 1873 Single Action Manual. Bore and stock in very good condition, rear sight is missing and front sight is loose. Johnnie Roper. If you are using a big bore handgun, the little 22 seems like a free party. well, few years ago I visited a gun shop in Brescia "Palmetto" and I was looking for the double gun they were selling (Chaparral Sidebyside) . Got a pair of Ubertis, one stainless and one blue (Thunder and Lightning). Rolling I dont use grease on the cylinder. 1885 High Wall Manual. The conversion cylinders may be purchased only through an FFL, as the change makes the pistol no longer a relic as it fires readily available modern ammo. Web1858 Remington, Richards Mason & Open Top Conversion Manual. Used Blued 1858 Cylinder Pins (will fit Pietta and ASM) 4 ea. . Armi San Marco 1858 Remington Black Powder replica. ASM attempted to revive its percussion revolvers with limited success and finally closed its doors several years back. Rust and pitting on metal. However, I am 99% sure this is an Armi San Marco because my Armi San Marco cylinders cycle, time and lock perfectly in this pistol and I also had 2 spare cylinders. Which further compromised the already doubtfull Accuracy of the Colt Style revolver! It was a great shooter, but unfortunately it rusted up while in storage. Also, using silicon-impregnated caliber-specific wads between powder and ball forecloses having to smear grease into the chamber mouth re: chain firing. Armi San Marco and Armi Sport now Chiappa are two different companies. I am no authority, but I believe I know the law on this subject. I have developed a way of cleaning and loading, that if followed EXACTLY, will give YOU the same degree of Reliability as I have! Serves the same purpose as putting lube over the ball as described in the article, but with less mess, and assists in proper compression with lighter loads. Black Powder Revolver Manual. Before one can change a cylinder on the Colt Design, the pistol has to be field stripped, and just imagine yourself as a United States Cavalryman, trying to hold his excited horse under control, as he strips the Colt Type revolver down into thee parts, then somehow, (It helps to be ambidextrous & double Jointed!) Easier to load and clean. THE FINISH IS A STRIKING IRIDESCENT CHARCOAL BLUING WITH A TINY SPECK OF RUST IN FRONT OF THE TRIGGER 45 Caliber; 94% blue, good bore, excellent grips, 11'' barrel, ITALIAN REPRODUCTION "W. PARKER-LONDON" SINGLE SHOT PERCUSSION PISTOL. Armi San Marco was a family owned gun maker in Brescia, Italy. All Armi San Marco black powder cap and ball and cartridge conversion models were discontinued in 2000. In 2004 I orderd a Uberti 1851 Colt part from the very back of the Brownells catalog the Uberti part fit better than the original, with both parts out side by side the Uberti had better finnish, the 'ASM' part had tool marks and general over all rough apperance (probibly why A) Armi San Marco 1858 New Model Percussion Revolver. The conversion cylinders are also not regulated, so you can get all of those you want and no one has any record of it. And they still shoot just as straight and true as the originals. WebThis conversion cylinder assembly will convert your 1858 Remington ASM, Uberti or Pietta steel or brass .44 cap and ball revolver to fire .22 cartridges.
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