QUESTION: All you can say is that they normally barked about 6 seconds before the visitor arrived, is that correct? ANSWER: A week after that I returned to Ohio, my hometown. Sandymount Strand! ANSWER: I told him to be quiet. No one in my family attended college during the Depression. He had been robbed of his wallet, smokes, jacket, and his $15 pro diem! I'm not sure how long he was in LA before 8/8/69. I didnt keep track who came in and who left. ANSWER: They were staying with me in the living room. The turning door handle story is terrifying okay but also reads like literature edited for maximum effect. MR. STOVITZ: No objection, Your Honor. His phone even. The tv journalism is kinda superficial at times and I know that shocks you. ANSWER: Yes. The trauma of what William witnessed led him to turn down multiple interview offers with the press that would have given him hundreds of thousands of dollars. May it be marked Peoples 19 for identification? Batter the accused from every possible angle. He is a member of famous Actor with the age 67 years old group. ANSWER: Two weeks to a month before the incident. He later married Linda Derr, and the pair had a son together. QUESTION: About what time did he make a phone call? MR. BUGLIOSI: I have here another photograph, Your Honor, showing a portion of a residence. A native of Lancaster, Ohio, Garretson stayed in a small cottage behind the main house. One I would have liked to ask Bill would be one that G&W has echoed here. MR. BUGLIOSI: I have here another photograph, Your Honor, again depicting a certain portion of the living room of the residence. QUESTION: When you went out earlier in the evening, you went down to Turners Drug Store, right? I'm calling bs on that one. We are here for blood." Sherwin-Williams bought them out in 1982. And then move into Cielo Drive (albeit the not air-conditioned guest house) with the property owner who also btw runs around town with Hollywood stars? That is where I stayed the night. She was already a business college graduate and out in the work world. This person has not replied to me.Beside my interest in what I call the "lost months" of William Garretson, between October 1968 and Mid-March 1969, I am also fascinated with what Bill did not hear about 12:40am on August 9, 1969.Although it has been hotly debated, I am of the belief that Tim Ireland heard none other than Voytek Frykowski as he screamed out in the night. Or, nineteen year old Billy decides to hitch to California to see the country he thinks he'll be drafted to defend before it's too late. QUESTION: If you recall, when would they normally commence their barking? ANSWER: I really couldnt say. 11th Grade. Maybe it took awhile to receive permission to leave town but Billy remained in California for a full week after the police release him before returning home to Ohio. In a moment, we'll discuss a second and just as interesting block of missing time at the end of Billy's stay in California and its possible effects on his eventual testimony. Three wives is deeper than any closet I've ever heard of in the secular world. Mysteries. Apologies, Glenna was indeed married before Uncle Bill. QUESTION: Do you recall it being brisk, or did it appear to be a typical August evening? QUESTION: Is this called the guest house? The people who served in Vietnam did so before their time in Manson land---Flynn, TJ the Terrible, etc. For his services he was paid $35 weekly and his responsibilities included caring for Altobelli's three dogs: two poodles and a Weimaraner. QUESTION: Did you pay any particular attention to whether there was noise or not? QUESTION: He left about 15 minutes after midnight; is that what you are saying? This was the first time I was able to clearly catch Charlie lying and for some reason it felt like a slap in the face. QUESTION: You have heard of the Spahn Movie Ranch or you havent heard of the Spahn Movie Ranch? This was the first time I was able to clearly catch Charlie lyingWhat was Charlie lying about? Content apart, I like GreenWhite's style. he was or anything. Helter Skelter: The True Story of the Manson Murders, Manson Exposed: A Reporter's 50-Year Journey into Madness and Murder, CHARLES MANSON: Helter Skelter; The Entire Life Story, Chaos: Charles Manson, the CIA, and the Secret History of the Sixties, Member of the Family: My Story of Charles Manson, Life Inside His Cult, and the Darkness That Ended the Sixties, The Long Prison Journey of Leslie Van Houten: Life Beyond the Cult, Manson: The Life and Times of Charles Manson, The Manson File: Myth and Reality of an Outlaw Shaman, Manson in His Own Words: The Shocking Confessions of The Most Dangerous Man Alive by Charles Manson. Hit Matt up. For classmates and the ex-wife of William Garretson, a Lancaster native originally charged with the August 1969 murders of seven people at famed director Roman Polanski's home, Manson's death brought back emotions. QUESTION: Did you enter through the gate or did you enter through Bella Drive? We hitched or walked everywhere, everyone did. Warrington Township. He should've known. QUESTION: In addition to caring for Mr. Altobellis dogs, did you have any other duties? We are not interested in what the witness usually did. Doug, that was way nice. Next sentence, "Even as a child I knew they were not smart." How were people drinking jars of shine and smacking kids up around her? Cohen's is of course the best and then probably followed by Kaylee Rodgers from your own green island. His father's bones or ashes are somewhere else. QUESTION: Dont did you have a conversation with him about that? Surely he felt like he escaped with his life. QUESTION: Have you ever lived at the address, 10050 Cielo Drive in the City of Los Angeles? Fitzgerald was getting no help from Billy or the bench that day. QUESTION: Did they leave during the night or did they stay with you inside the living room? "Because when Justin finally woke up (fortunately around 20mins before we were supposed to go on) he had a VERY weak recollection of how he came to lose his stuff (fortunately, no beating or organ harvesting occurred) AND, HE HAD ZERO RECOLLECTION OF HIS "Bill Garretson" tag team Gypsy session! There is a cement platform where you walk into the guest house. I submit to the Court that that impeaches his direct testimony and would seem to establish that the dogs he seemed on his direct examination to be unclear as to when he heard certain dogs barking. Like the Partisan, j'ai chang cent fois de nom And I very rarely post here. Check out cielodrive.com. Speculation and theories about Garretson suggest he was using drugs and an arresting officer said, he looked gone no life in his eyes. Have you ever heard of a caretaker sharing the use of a private pool with his rich neighbors, aka the paying tenants, who live across the walk and can see him swimming? ANSWER: I am not sure. Did he talk to you, in other words? Copyright 2020 Legal Disclosures, Terms of Service, Privacy Policy Hi, Beauders. Billy Garreston, fresh from his senior year in Ohio, arrives in the City of Angels on the back of a turnip truck and drifts through a year or two of living on his journey to Rudi Altobelli. QUESTION: You didnt realize that his name was Frykowski and that he was not related to Mr. Polanski? QUESTION: You had it on about medium, is that correct? QUESTION: Now, are you familiar with the acoustics at 10050 Cielo Drive? ANSWER: The one by the patio, I mean the porch. Pete - Funny and succinct. QUESTION: Did you walk by the main house when you walked back to the guest house? Did he start out at a primo cruisin' spot after making the decision he could do that type of work and thus accelerated his journey to the Cielo guesthouse? The $27 they robbed from a man, always reported at $35 in the Mansonverse, was truly a death sentence for Luther. Because of two minutes in a staff lavatory. And over the years I've been following this blog we have had any number of inchoate, inarticulate and frequently obscene babblings which are best left uncommented. the mystery of the caretaker at Cielo Drive, Just after midnight on August 9th, 1969, four members of the Manson Family approached the property at 10050 Cielo Drive in Benedict Canyon. There's no way he could do that because of his personality and how nice he was. QUESTION: Would it be unusual for you to see a number of people, lets say 7 or 8 guests or acquaintances in the vicinity of the main house near the pool area, or in the pool area, in the QUESTION: Do you believe you arose around 1:00 pm on that date, sir? A little while later, the woman of the house calls my friend on his personal phone and demands he fire the driver or they're done doing business together. QUESTION: And you have been there ever since? Late night parties did occur at the main house so it is entirely possible that Garretson did not fully understand what danger was occurring that night. The above photo is from his sophomore year in 1965. The pair were married for five years and had a son together, she said, adding that their son was born with a severe heart defect and died after his third open heart surgery. Their son was born with a heart condition and he ended up dying after his third open-heart surgery. QUESTION: In the presence of Lieutenant A.H. Burdick? QUESTION: I show you Peoples 17 for identification, Mr. Garretson, and draw your attention to the passengers side of the car. QUESTION: Just July and August, yes. QUESTION: Again, did you pay any particular attention to that? QUESTION: You have never been to Spahn Movie Ranch? An Army wife, pageant mom, and beauty salon owner, Doris Tate went on to become a leading voice in the victims' rights movement, founding COVER, . There are many hustlers in LA right now who never reach those heights. Or maybe Lee Marvin. A carving fork was protruding from Leno LaBiancas stomach, and the word WAR was cut in his flesh. Would you have to close it or would it automatically close? ANSWER: The only party that I remember is that they had a very large party in, I think it was June. He was COMPLETELY passed out and, loudly snoring when we came upon himhowever, he wasn't alone!! But opting out of some of these cookies may affect your browsing experience. nize what that object is? Other times, I think Tex was just another nail in Billy's coffin. I didnt wind them up. ANSWER: It was about medium. QUESTION: Were you friendly with any of the gardeners? For classmates and the ex-wife of William Garretson, a Lancaster native. QUESTION: Then you hitchhiked up Benedict Canyon, right? QUESTION: Do you remember the day, August 8th, 1969, a Friday? You consent to our use of cookies if you continue to use this site. MR. KANAREK: I object on the grounds of hearsay, Your Honor. It's not worth a lot today but nothing on the river is really. There's too much (hate) on this earth now, so Manson is at peace now, I hope.". ANSWER: Well, they kept accurate time if I would wind them up. QUESTION: And you talked over there, correct? But there are lots of people hanging around with the answers. QUESTION: that Mr. Parent tried to sell you? Second, "Off to another aunt and uncle." QUESTION: Did you hear any loud noises of any kind whatsoever? As someone with a strange interest in peripheral characters, i've previously looked up Darrel Kistler, Patty Maloney, Debra Tidwell, Roy Plank et al, but does anyone know who Tom and Dave, the gardening brothers, were?Tom, who had a Mustang, would occasionally park up by the gates with a girl. Ladies and gentlemen, do not converse among yourselves nor with anyone else on any subject relating to this case nor form or express any opinion regarding this case until it is finally submitted to you. I'd at least take the bus with some of my Camaro money. And you might also learn something. North Los Angeles Street in the City of Los Angeles? "I doubt anyone in history ever slept thru a hummer before but what do I know? QUESTION: This is the only other time that you had seen him prior to this evening? "When I saw on TV they'd arrested Bill, I was flabbergasted because I couldn't believe it. QUESTION: What happened to Christopher? ANSWER: That he barked, I mean, generally, but I mean any night he would generally bark. His wife is granted the divorce on the grounds of gross neglect and extreme cruelty. By using this site you agree to our Terms of Service and Privacy Policy. Garretson polygraph interview - "I used to have a '68 camaro when i lived in Ohio, but i sold it before i came out to california". Was never hard to get a ride either. I'm pretty sure I'll never forget your story. Quick story. 9:45 am Monday. MR. STOVITZ: At one time, Counsel, or all? ANSWER: Well, then they drug me onto the patio and threw me down on my stomach. Donna Jean never gets no love. QUESTION: About what time did you arrive? We will update William Garretson's Height, weight, Body Measurements, Eye Color, Hair Color, Shoe & Dress size soon as possible. QUESTION: When you say they, who are you referring to? Garretson. Marvin was bigger in '67. Let's move on to August 9th. QUESTION: What did you do after Mr. Parent left? The two were connected by a rope hung over a rafter and looped around their necks. Just that her birth mom was a prostitute and her alleged dad was from "across the river". He went through some shit he could never tell anyone about out there in sunny California. His net worth has been growing significantly in 2021-2022. THE COURT: We still have 2 or 3 minutes, if you wish to start, Mr. Fitzgerald? The proof is shown but the bench is still all, "Haha no way fuck you, Fitzgerald. Thanks for the time you spend crafting your pieces, GreenWhite, and may the ink in your pen never run dry. Like a lot of his stories, I discovered that Charlie's tales of his upbringing don't always closely match up with the historical record. The Tate-LaBianca murders were a series of murders perpetrated by members of the Manson Family during August 8-10, 1969, in Los Angeles, California, United States, under the direction of Tex Watson and Charles Manson.The perpetrators killed six people on the night of August 8-9: pregnant actress Sharon Tate (whose unborn child died as a result) and her companions Jay Sebring, Abigail . This was his final address. If you live near any kind of mountain/valley situation, pay a visit and give it a go - it's quite surprising. Ann Underwood. QUESTION: Later on in the early morning hours? QUESTION: I show you Peoples 23 for identification. How and why were you staying up all night every night? son. MR. BUGLIOSI: I would request this, Your Honor, instead of his posture being that of impeachment. We're getting ahead of ourselves. I must stress that these colleagues were all pretty much bottomless beer drinking pits. Good point. Helter Skelter: The True Story of the Manson Murders, Manson Exposed: A Reporter's 50-Year Journey into Madness and Murder, CHARLES MANSON: Helter Skelter; The Entire Life Story, Chaos: Charles Manson, the CIA, and the Secret History of the Sixties, Member of the Family: My Story of Charles Manson, Life Inside His Cult, and the Darkness That Ended the Sixties, The Long Prison Journey of Leslie Van Houten: Life Beyond the Cult, Manson: The Life and Times of Charles Manson, The Manson File: Myth and Reality of an Outlaw Shaman, Manson in His Own Words: The Shocking Confessions of The Most Dangerous Man Alive by Charles Manson. Sherman was tough. the picnic table. The richest couple in his wealthy state receive weekly deliveries. Torque said "At the TLB trial, Bill was asked how exactly he landed the job at Cielo, and Bugliosi shot off an instant objection"Now my conspiracy radar has been set off. Along with so many other individuals in this story, it helps me to better understand the environment in which these people found themselves.Brownrice, agreed. May it be marked Peoples 21 for identification? In Glenna's wedding announcement, not with Bill, didn't see what happened there but they weren't married, Glenna is also called a popular girl in town. With no psychological aftercare or anything else, Billy enjoyed a free redeye back Ohio that evening where the wife he married three weeks earlier waited. Her/our family is famous in Scottish lore, and Mel Gibson played our most famous historical relative in a movie mostly every Boomer, Gen X'er, and Millennial reading this has watched, heard of, or seen in memes. QUESTION: And then you were released from custody? He claimed the sucker was called "Rice or something like that." I was more of a cider/spirits guy and, I was never, ever so thoroughly embarrassed drinking as I was on this tour and I was almost always the one who could outdrink pretty much anyonenot this tour and, especially NOT ON THIS DAY!After a few hours of ridiculously stupid drinking we realized that we were missing a guitarist. Police spared Garretson a sight even more horrible inside the house. I dunno if you're a god or bacterium but I like mythology AND science and you're now my homie forever. Now, if you want to talk about the sticks, I'm from a place near the river that makes Lancaster look like a full-blown metropolis. 3. Garretson, a 1967 Lancaster High graduate, was 19 years old and working as a caretaker at actress Sharon Tate's home at the time of her murder, along with six others. QUESTION: Were you sleeping at the time that the police arrived or had you already awakened? ANSWER: It wasnt raining or anything, I think it was a clear night. Conviction (s) Murder. Was Billy possibly a naive rumpkin who thought he could go to Hollywood and become the next Steve McQueen? QUESTION: Did you normally have the windows open in the guest house? Criminal penalty. QUESTION: You were carrying a carton of Coca-Cola in one hand? QUESTION: Do you recall what you did that evening, August 8, 1969, a Friday? The importance of the dogs barking is that they may signal or herald the arrival on the scene of the persons who perpetrated the events. QUESTION: Do you recall if there were any lights inside the Polanskis residence? Billy tells Bugliosi in court that he moved out of Cielo Dr. on August 9th. More:Local resident adds 'strange' details about gory Manson killing spree, More:From the archives: Mother thinks son couldn't be killer, More:From the archives: Garretson freed in LA, Charles Manson, one of nation's most infamous mass killers, dead at 83. !Two seriously insane (and, frighteningly, stereotypical - in EVERY WAY POSSIBLE ) toothless Gypsy women had been/were taking turns on him as if Justin was a young Bill Garretson!! According to our Database, He has no children. Mrs. Billy #3 is probably still out there, too. Do you know what is shown in that photograph? All rights reserved. He is not dating anyone. ANSWER: I know their name by Tom and Dave. Copyright 2020 Legal Disclosures, Terms of Service, Privacy Policy Btw, if you ever visit Lancaster, be sure to pronounce the city's name, "Lank-uh-stir." Tell me no one, not even that crew, is that stupid, Billy. Garrison really suffered trauma. He was the only survivor of the slayings, and the attacks marred his life forever. But fear-stricken Hollywood residents rushed to buy guns yesterday for self-protection. Where is William Garretson today, on the 50th anniversary of the murders? Getting into cars is totally scary. . They shared an apartment an hour from the airport in Columbus. The pair were married for five years and had a son together, she said, adding that their son was born with a severe heart defect and died after his third open heart surgery. QUESTION: Have you ever met anyone who said that they knew either one of these defendants? He was unharmed, lived close to the residence, and likely had keys inside, so it wasn't much of a surprise when William was booked for the murders. QUESTION: You didnt find them to be barking any more night? Christy Snider-Bitler, another classmate, was also shocked to see Garretson on the headlines of newspapers and TVs across the country in 1969. Seriously. Tecumseh was tough but had an insane brother. Star - I like your two questions about Billy, btw. MR. BUGLIOSI: Your Honor, I have here another photograph of the interior of a car. Sitting high above California's Benedict Canyon, the 3,200 square-foot home and 2,000 square-foot guest house sat on a 3.3-acre plot. These cookies do not store any personal information. QUESTION: All right, the acoustics have you ever heard people talking in the vicinity of the pool area? Jealousy probably. QUESTION: Did you hear any screams or hollers or yells that evening? When questioned, Garretson said he was unaware of the murders until police burst into his bedroom and led him to the bloody bodies of Frokowski and Abigail Folger, lying on the lawn, and Steven Parent, slumped over the wheel of his car. I mean, the Porsche was out there, you know, usually sometimes at night, you know, and sometimes in the afternoon. "He was kind of a shy, quiet guy, but you couldn't find a nicer guy.". If you do not agree, please immediately exit the service. Out of these, the cookies that are categorized as necessary are stored on your browser as they are essential for the working of basic functionalities of the website. QUESTION: Is that the entrance you customarily use for ingress and egress? QUESTION: And you were then transported later that afternoon, Saturday afternoon, downtown to the main Los Angeles Police Department, correct? Mr. Bugliosi suggested I approach the bench before I ask the impeaching question. Moreover, she said Bill had but $1.85 in his pocket.Bill did agree to an interview on Truth On Tate Labianca Radio a few years ago, and answered several questions. QUESTION: The other two dogs stayed inside the living room? At 59, he is a big-rig truck driver. Shoutout to Linda up in Heaven for her kindness. In another amazing blunder by police, the two bloody murders were originally deemed to be unrelated and were investigated by separate homicide teams. QUESTION: if you were standing at the door that you usually go in and out of, can you hear people in the area of the pool? This person has not replied to me. The Garretsons. QUESTION: Did you ever see other people using the pool? Please accept the unpaid researcher position I offer in the future. First, I found her phone number from 2002 on Ancestry. Who's behind the wheel? Randy Groff, Lancaster City Council member, knew Garretson as far back as elementary school. QUESTION: Did you go outside and look around? Keep the jury focusing on something other than what the prosecution wanted them to focus on. --Who paid the fee for Billy's high priced lawyer, and why?--How did Billy manage to avoid the draft? Well said. Actually we (or Bill at least) was in a place called the 1960s', where hitch-hiking was regarded as a pretty normal way to get around for many young people. QUESTION: Did you fall asleep around dawn at all? QUESTION: About what time did Mr. Parent arrive? Billy and Wife #1 have a child while living at this address. Could Billy have been deliberately placed at Cielo as an informant? Every young person loves living at home after they become adults. Where was Billy for those seven days after being released from jail? QUESTION: What were your duties out there on the premises? THE COURT: Cross-examination, Mr. Fitzgerald? Learn How rich is He in this year and how He spends money? Like that awful Hillbilly Elegy traitor author to the Scots-Irish, the reincarnate Flavius Josephus of the hollers, I now believe Charlie exploited and caricature'd our massive, migratory blob for his own benefit every time he opened his mouth about us. Copyright 2023 Distractify. It's not a stretch to wonder if things he experienced during that period might help us better understand the goings on at Cielo prior to the murders. QUESTION: What time was it that you actually went to bed, went to sleep that is? They took me across. Torque - it's just crazy to imagine. ANSWER: No, not oh, from a distance, you know. Were you wearing a jacket? It's almost like trying to do the defence's work for them, 50 years down the line, because it's felt they made such a poor job of it. QUESTION: You did not look in the window of the main house? Sarah Garretson born 2 Mar 1753, married in 1773 to James Wickersham born 1743 5. Where was Billy for those seven days after being released from jail?IF Garretson was an informant, it might explain where he was in those seven days, as well as how he avoided the draft and how he escaped the dope charge in LA. They service big personal accounts too. QUESTION: Directing your attention to Peoples 2 for identification, do you know who is shown in this photograph? We have had other occasional attempts at creative writing, such as Fayez with his affected and incomprehensible attempts at literary output. QUESTION: Lets stretch it and say Ireland is Europe. QUESTION: And you were under the employ of one Rudi Altobelli, correct? He said to try to always travel in numbers and, to graciously decline any offers of complimentary beverages or, food (roofies, drugs, kidnapping risk and, even the possibility of organ harvesting!We had 6 hours to kill before we had to be back at the venue to share in a communal meal and, sound check before we had another 3 hour break before we had to play. pete. Since 2016, Billy is gone and it's possible barely anyone cares. They were more or less convinced that they had the person who committed the murders: me. DEATH TO PIGS and the misspelled HEALTER SKELTER were written in their blood on a wall and the refrigerator. QUESTION: And this would activate the gate and open it, is that correct? Bill Daniels Instagram While the accomplished actor has had many successes throughout his career, he describes his wife as his "biggest win in life." ANSWER: They usually did bark, you know, during the night. QUESTION: When you heard the dogs Christopher bark 2 or 3 hours after Steven Parent left, was it your state of mind that a guest was arriving on the premises? Sometime after completing high school, Billy made the mistake of a lifetime when he hitchhiked from Ohio to Los Angeles. ANSWER: No, I would say about 15 to 20 seconds, something like that. Parent was the first one killed, shot by Watson in the driver's seat of his car after visiting the guest house to see William Garretson, the property caretaker, to see if he wanted to buy a piece . "Of course, I also thought he didn't participate in that himself, he just gave orders. I didn't have a car and as far as I remember the only buses were long distance Greyhounds. ANSWER: Well, the Weimaraner left. I tried to locate Linda when I was gathering information for this post but I was too late. John Garretson born 7 Jan 1757, married 22 Apr 1778 in Menallen to Tamar Hammond born 10 Sep 1759 7. He passed away in 2016 after a battle with cancer, two years before Charles Manson would meet his demise in prison. QUESTION: Will you please step down from the witness stand, sir, just temporarily, and indicate where in the living room the stereo was. QUESTION: I show you Peoples 16 for identification, do you see Miss Folgers car depicted in that photograph? I want to pick up the phone while Billy's leaving his message to Max and breathlessly exclaim, "I'm here! Just kidding. A third Gypsy friend offered to give a neighborhood canine the "Bill Garretson" for a beer and a smoke!! Sorry, $300-$500 range in today's money Billy remained in California for a full week after the police release him before returning home to Ohio. QUESTION: You didnt have a watch or clock? As David/Dreath often has put it, damned fine lawyering. People . QUESTION: You testified on your direct examination I believe that the dogs used to bark when people would come to the residence. I figured because I had trouble with the phone I had trouble with the phone about a month prior. Billy was about to turn twenty and return to the heartland when August 8th happened. Billy grew up without a father in this tidy little home. MR. SHINN: Move to strike the last portion of his answer as not responsive. Please don't stay forever angry, Mrs. Billy #1. Perhaps in the spring I can find a way to bring Pearce into all of this.they'll umm surely love it. QUESTION: Did you also know the gardeners? I dont know. By the time Bill was ready to begin school, he was already milking cows and doing chores. ANSWER: I couldnt really say, but it was just before daybreak. There was no GI Bill yet. Do NOT follow this link or you will be banned from the site. Somewhat related, when they ask Billy during his polygraph if he ever had sex with a man, and Billy replies that he has, I notice that many researchers harmonize that statement with the blowjob tale. But spend a couple of minutes in Lancaster and you'll be like oh yeah okay I totally see it now. What if they drive you away to your doom? OH! MR. BUGLIOSI: I have here another photograph, Your Honor, showing the interior of what appears to be a living room of a residence. You might think Billy was from the sticks and in a way you're right but his hometown of Lancaster, Ohio, is also basically becoming a distant burb of the state capital these days. According to the Columbus Citizen Journal, (1970), Bill Garretson's mother, Mary, said Bill left Lancaster Ohio in October 1968 for California. Letting an older gay guy blow you hardly amounts to being gay oneself and certainly does not suggest that one is some kind of street hustler. daughter. Really awesome group of people who all contributed to the various tasks necessary for the show to happen (hosts, hospitality, cooks, roadies, sound techs, "housekeeping"(families who would put us up for the evening), facilitators of what seemed to be unending libations of pretty much ANYTHING we inquired about, etc). QUESTION: For the sake of the record, was that Sharon Polanski? The only place I see Charlie living is Glenna and Uncle Bill's house, the 400 Caldwell address everyone always calls Manson's childhood home.
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