Long before NASA was asked to put a man on the moon one engineer had already figured out how to get there. Mike thanks for your call. She quotes a biologist in Lyme New Hampshire who who is keeping two mountain lions himself so in the not too distant past in the early nineteen hundreds it was perhaps more common and still in Maine. Love hearing these stories. Patrick Tate: So Cougar Mountain Lion katama. I tracked cats and all the western states. N.H. Residents Report Mountain Lion Sighting - NECN As recently as 2011 there was one young male mountain lion that cruised all the way from the black hills of South Dakota, up over the Great Lakes, down through New Yorkgetting spotted all. Lions Clubs Int'l Links: LionNet NH Links 2011 -2012 . Caller: I do. Mountain Lions in New Hampshire-Fact or Fiction. We'll push great photos to the front page. Have it reported down in the Keene area. Fish and Wildlife Service decided all of the cougars, pumas, and mountain lions in the country are actually the same species, and that species hasnt had a breeding population anywhere near the Northeast for at least 70 years. Rick van de Poll: 80 90. Think You Saw A Mountain Lion in N.H.? - New Hampshire Public Radio I would just suggest that in my experience as a reporter covering this covering this issue for a few years at least at what point do we reach a certain critical mass for lack of a better term of accounts where I'm not to suggest that you guys aren't taking this possibility seriously. The report came in from a conservation officer. Peter Biello: Or send us an email exchange at an HP board. N.H. Get your tickets today and one for fifty dollars or six for 150 at NH PR and board. Your support makes this news available to everyone. A monthly donation of $5 makes a real difference. Patrick Tate: I've had hunters hang deer carcasses forbidding wildlife entries. I'm sorry go ahead you're on the air. NHPR is nonprofit and independent. Less than a year later I found a scat on the swamp range and I was working at the time with a fellow at the Michigan wildlife habitat Federation. So for our scientists to do the lumping and whatnot. By, March 2023 Fund Drive Rules and Regulations, Persons with disabilities who need assistance accessing NHPR's FCC public files, please contact us at publicfile@nhpr.org. Let us know your story and share your photos! Is that typically what was happening there. A monthly donation of $5 makes a real difference. He shifted gears in 2016 and began producing Outside/In, a podcast and radio show about the natural world and how we use it. His work has won him several awards, including two regional Edward R. Murrow awards, one national Murrow, and the Overseas Press Club of America's award for best environmental reporting in any medium. Peter Biello: Yeah some of what she was saying sounds like it would require getting pretty close or at least having a nice zoom lens right Sam like. Thanks for your call. Are there other powers that be worried that scary mountain lions will scare off people from camping in New Hampshire. The brother and sister big cats have lived . And Rick Van de Poll naturalist and founder of ecosystem management consultants of New England. On Oct. 10, he gave a slide talk called "Wild Cats of New Hampshire," which included the bobcat and the lynx. support for an HBO who comes from you our listener Sam from advanced in you a local New Hampshire nonprofit specializing in college student loans and student refinancing options. So what counts as verifiable evidence? Patrick Tate: It became a very interesting investigation over time because it started becoming. Its actually fairly reasonable to believe that mountain lions do, at least, pass through occasionally. Today on the exchange we discuss what residents may have been seeing and what breeding mountain lion pairs would mean for our ecosystem. Mountain Lion | Squam Lakes Natural Science Center All exhibit and hiking trails are CLOSED for the season. Patrick Tate: I've from all the situations I've read and learned about wildlife. Tate said that while a mountain lion sighting in New Hampshire isn't likely, it's not impossible. Part II. Monday, December 5th: Mountain Lions in New Hampshire? - WMUR Peter Biello: Well Karl Jarvis a former reporter for The King's son Nile thank you very much for for calling in and sharing your perspective and to his point Patrick T. I mean yes we haven't met the scientific burden of proof here in New Hampshire as far as physical evidence is is concerned but is there room at Fish and Game For A kind of an informal nod to all of the people who have somehow convinced themselves and possibly some others that yeah there may be occasional sightings here. History of Mountain Lions in New Hampshire | NH Wildlife Which which I think Pat and I have both experienced. So it's there was no question in my mind. So. So I did a bunch of research and all the documentation I found was there art are not any pieces of DNA of Eastern online. We send out DNA samples to the U.S. Forest Service Rocky Mountain Research Station. If you believe you have seen a mountain lion and want to report it to NH Fish and Game, please contact the Wildlife Division at (603) 271-2461 or wildlife@wildlife.nh.gov to request an observation report form. Mountain Lion Population (In Each U.S. State) - Wildlife Informer Thanks also to Rick van de Poll naturalist and founder of ecosystem management consultants of New England and Sam Evans Brown host of an HP podcast outside in about the natural world and how we use it. And I I have this great text history of New Hampshire game and fir bears and I think by Helen Silver who used to work for fish and game and she sort of I kind eyes this animal in one of the quotes from 1892 stating that the catamaran was the most ferocious of all the wild beasts of New Hampshire his great size strength and agility of movement together with his formidable weapons rendered him the terror both of man and beast. Mountain Lions are a mythical creature in New Hampshire with strong feelings on both sides of the question: are there Mountain Lions in New Hampshire? But also I think it proves the opposite point which is that sometimes they're pretty secretive because all the way from Minnesota where the where was the first time was picked up on a game camera to New York. Chartered: 1973 . New Hampshire's Mountain Lions | NH Wildlife That's what we're seeing is dispersing mountain lions from the West who are just making their way through. Listeners give us a call if you'd like. Post your sightings and NH photos here! So try to take photographs if you see something like this. New Hampshire Fish and Game Department says there's no proof. From "History of New Hampshire Game and Furbearers" by Helenette Silver, Research Clerk, NH Fish and Game Dept. Caller: Well I think Patrick I recognized your name. Patrick Tate: Exactly I was gonna bring that up juvenile male of. Mountain Lion Population By State: 2023 Data [Statistics] But before I go any further I want to say we do not have sufficient game. And the second question is this a behavior mountain lions exhibit. So. It all used to be based on measurable physical traits color, skull size, paw size, etc but now its based on whether an animal can be shown to be genetically distinct from others. The Connecticut Mountain Lion is the best documented wild Mountain Lion in New England. Sue Morse: First and foremost if you have color or if you could see details of color look at the front of the face around the Pumas muzzle the muzzle itself is pure white. Give us a call if you have a question or comments or story about perhaps seeing a mountain lion here in New Hampshire. Theres tracks everywhere. Chapter X, Predators, Panther (Mountain Lion) From History of NH Game and Furbearers by Helenette Silver, Research Clerk, NH Fish and Game Dept. Select image for larger view. Let's talk to Mike in Webster. Patrick Tate: Same here in New Hampshire too. So we're fixated on natural but there's other possibilities. He played a pivotal role and he battled for recognition. I'm Peter Biello. Seems reasonable! Thank you. So so. Well just that I have evidence and it was not it was denied by fishing game at the time and I you know there's I don't need to prove to anybody that I saw one just like some of your callers said okay. Don't miss your chance to win three two thousand dollar gas gift cards at any station of your choice not to mention the grand prize twenty five thousand dollars toward a new car. Gotcha, so the Deep State is suppressing mountain lion news in order to prop up New Hampshire tourism? It doesn't make much sense because you know mountain lions are as we as we said before. So so do what you can get to do what you can to get proof. Email exchange it an HP fraud org or give us a call 1 800 8 9 2 6 4 7 7. So you want identifiable backgrounds. Are these big cats back?Subscribe to WMUR on YouTube now for more: http://bit.ly/1lOjX9CGet more Manchester news: http://wmur.comLike us: http://facebook.com. So one thing that I find fascinating about this Connecticut cat was six months between the New York situation where they found evidence of it too when it was hit by a motor vehicle. Lots of people have stories about them, people have them on their game cameras I mean its kind of a thing. Peter Biello: And that will make identification for a layperson rather difficult. It's got a a smudge of black and bobcats and links just don't have that we don't have any other cards. Support for an age PR comes from you our listeners. Michael Brindley is our program manager our producers our Jessica Hunt and Christina Phillips and our theme music was composed by Bob Lord. Monday, December 5th: Mountain Lions in New Hampshire? Had great trees behind it beautiful ferns on the ground so it brought me down on the site and the ferns on the ground matched. Can you look into this picture. So I just brought up the bobcat thing because the location is fascinating to me that that that location we have Bobcats existing but that location we have a mountain lion report because it's a developed area and which brings me back to earlier what I had said it's a bouncing ball. Pat ruse and he was sampling doing DNA samples from cats in the Upper Peninsula of Michigan. Squam Lake: Home of mountain lions - Concord Monitor It was in the spring flash kind of early summer and my wife looked at you look at the size of an adult bear and we were up in arms. Rick van de Poll: Well education is the real important thrust of of what all of us do as biologists and Game Managers and to make sure that a things like what Sam was saying that in spite of what you believe the mountain lions will not eat your children they will not steal your pets from your backyard and they will not necessarily be seen by you unless you're extremely lucky. We have evidence and as biologists we would find it quite exciting to find that evidence of one in the state. So I don't understand really how how this this idea came to be but it is the main reason why folks believe that fishing game is is covering up the fact that there are mountain lions in the state again with no evidence. We rely on readers like you to support the local, national, and international coverage on this website. And I can recall its information but I can't confirm or verify anything. Every other Friday on Morning Edition NHPRs Sam Evans-Brown tracks down answers to questions about the environment and outdoors for our listeners in a segment we call Ask Sam.. How far were you from this cat. And I think this is a really interesting story for a couple of reasons one is that it proves what Pat was saying which that basically from New York state where its traces was really picked up on a game camera around Lake George all the way down to Connecticut there was numerous. Caller: So I've been telling this story for five years or so and very few people believe me. So and so they so they do get pretty involved. As wildlife biologists, wed be fascinated to say 'look look what was found in our state.'. Peter Biello: Well John thanks very much for the story really appreciate it. I actually been interviewed a couple of times by reporters and with all due respect for the media you know facts aren't always communicated correctly. But if you were to get Western dispersing mountain lions just would just sort of expanding into New Hampshire. When you talk about a bobcat Bobcat maybe 80 90 pounds and then a mountain lion could be between 130 and 180 pounds. Caller: And the more I thought about it the color of it it was definitely not a bobcat. So I certainly can't dispute anything that they said there's no evidence for me to go by to verify or say what my thoughts are on the situation. So the whole media hype about how scary mountain lions are should should go away immediately and that would be that I think the major thrust of educating folks about these casualties vs.. Sam Evans-Brown: Sam go ahead. And so I just wanted to share my share my experience with you guys and it was pretty awesome to see if you get to see one albeit it was in the brush. And we want to know your stories if you have them 1 800 8 9 2 6 4 7 7 or email exchange at an HP bar dot org we'll talk about conspiracy theories when we come back. 1957. Yeah I did. So so in 2011 a mountain lion was killed in a car accident in Connecticut a car hit a mountain lion and killed it. The exchange is a production of New Hampshire Public Radio. HOLDERNESS, N.H. (AP) Two of the known mountain lions in New Hampshire have spent their 15 years in close proximity to humans. Which goes back to the Connecticut Connecticut cat and what not. Sort of dropped onto the SD card of a camera he'd set up out in the wild. 44-N Links. Saddleback Mountain Lions You don't know what's going on. So I've been convinced the whole time that I saw a big cougar plume or whatever you want to call it standing there in the road in Greenfield. So here in New Hampshire when a person turns in something that the Department believes is possible mountain lion and believes it should be investigated further. The views expressed in this program are those of the individuals and not those of an HP are its board of trustees or its underwriters. But if people are still seeing mountain lions, why is the state and federal government seeking to COVER IT UP!? He said matter of fact I do. Join as a $8 per month sustainer and get our brand-new owl umbrella! It traveled all the way from from you know Minnesota to New York without being so seen Patrick take. Mike you're on the air. And so so with their limited staff and limited budget that is that is more and more limited every year because you know fewer people are buying hunting and fishing licenses. My wife and I saw a mountain lion. Why do people keep seeing mountain lions (which aren't here) but not So you know until I found those two scats I didn't think that mountain lions were here in the east. Peter Biello: So a little bit of nostalgia maybe for it for a better world embodied in the mountain lion. You've got you've got biologists right who are trying to make their make their way in the world make a career if you are the biologists who confirmed a sighting of mountain lions in the state that would be very good for you like you would be all over the news. Caller: It had just left that field and was out. Rick van de Poll: Well I didn't. And boy it was big it had to be at least 200 pounds the thing was you and and it just made a little bit of noise and it was gone. This is the exchange. You're on the air. Despite numerous reports, the NH Fish and Game Department continues to have no physical evidence of mountain lion presence in the state. So let's let's go to the phones. Anyways after three weeks I finally found the image on line on a field and stream photo contest and the explanation in the end was the person that set the camera out with another individual and they believed that someone who knew of the camera location saw the similarities put the can't picture on their SD card so it looked like that camera recorded the image that is. He writes As a farmer I come across many outdoorsman looking to hunt our property had a conversation with one who believed very strongly that we had mountain lions in New Hampshire. And I was probably about a half a mile from downtown all village on the right. So there's even debate about that very subject. And because you know things flow downhill and I was pushed to go investigate it more and met with the individual two or three times and there was a bunch of inconsistencies about the photograph. From: Boomerdog in OK 08-Oct-07 I think that you probably are. But you can continue the conversation on Facebook or at our Web site and HP Borg. People were calling the New Hampshire Fish and Game director's office saying why are you dragging your feet on this. So Marty can you see what I'm getting at is the public sees different names and thinks that they're different animals but it's all the same animal. Let's go now to to Kyle in Keene I believe Kyle is this Kyle Jarvis from the Keene Sentinel a former reporter and former reporter. Peter Biello: This is NHK PR Good morning and HP are summer car raffle is back and now's the time to get your early bird tickets. We did a short segment about mountain lion sightings earlier this year and and after which I was sent a photo and also a video recording that was mostly just audio because it was so dark the photo just a quick reverse Google image search you can put images online and see where else where else they've been posted revealed that the photo had been taking out taken out in Wyoming and has been used you know hundreds of times to claim and the person who sent it to me said it had been taken New Hampshire. I found a second scat scent both to him. The species that once inhabited the Northeast, known as the eastern mountain lion, is now extinct. 1 800 8 9 2 6 4 7 7. But but I've also seen it cited the opposite way that look they're very secretive. Sam Evans-Brown: And second the evidence required is is you know pretty pretty tough to gather. Verifiable pictures recorded by the observing person or a trail camera. Monadnock Ledger-Transcript - Claims of mountain lions spread So maybe a good pet for you but not for your neighbor if you just stop by unannounced. We speculate they dont want us to screw up tourism we dont know whats going on. We want answers. Patrick Tate: And there's one other way to model that is the same animal. Is there something particularly hospitable about New Hampshire Forests that make them want to come here. Any sense of of whether or not mountain lions are sort of wary of more population dense areas like like the one he was describing Rick. I came to a stop and it was and I've seen a lot of bobcats in my time and I just came to a stop it was just sort of confused about what I was seeing. And I just said I saw I saw they from behind the shoulder all the way past the long tail. And I have to use that word allegedly because there is so much dispute about what people see and what they actually see. Deer Bear Moose Grey Wolf Coyote Foxes Fisher Mountain Lion NH Wildlife History. Thank you for visiting the New Hampshire Fish and Game Department website. Peter Biello: Let's go to Mike in Epping. GAP MOUNTAIN LIONS CLUB Fitzwilliam, New Hampshire (USA) District 44-N . Through DNA they approximate area in the United States or North America where I was born. Enable JavaScript by changing your browser options, and then try again. Patrick Tate: While a juvenile not a juvenile I guess if you want nodes to the base of the tail for juvenile that wouldn't be small at all. Peter Biello: The number is 1 800 8 9 2 6 4 7 7. OK. I saw the tail end of a literally from behind the shoulder The Long Tail mountain lion crossing the highway going from Password to often Village downtown. Caller: It had to be a mountain lion convinced I was about 30. Mike Guyton pressure was almost Greyhound like very muscular large back legs on it and the coloration on it was almost an orange brownish orange color and so I stop and I look at this thing in the field and as the animal looks at me the face was very chiseled definitely not a bobcat. And as the biologist who's gonna stand on this and if I'm going to say this is a proven picture I need to be able to stand on it so soundly and have the evidence so I going to go through it with a fine tooth comb kept picking pieces apart trying to answer these pieces. So what those ranges. Peter Biello: Listeners give us a call if you have a question or a story of a sighting 1 800 8 9 2 6 4 7 7. I hope she's listening and she had spoke to a lot of different people ended up having a couple of sightings of her alone without sort of by accident. Peter Biello: We got an e-mail question from Robert in Epsom who asks are sightings or encounters with these big cats less dangerous here where they're passing through than out west where those same mountain lines might be establishing territory Rick. Right. So do they. Peter Biello: Mm hmm. We've met Fish and Game's BURDEN OF PROOF. Are there mountain lions in New Hampshire? : r/newhampshire - reddit I wanted to get your thoughts on the mystique of the mountain lion start with you Rick. Hunting is legal, but closely regulated by the state. OK. That location they just described we had two or three Bobcats radio collared on just off the runway in Laconia airport. Peter Biello: We at this e-mailed comment from Michael. Sam Evans-Brown: Certainly that is a thing I've heard but again you have to think of the incentives involved here. The DNA the DNA that they were able to pull from the cat suggested that it was a dispersed mountain lion that came. Rick van de Poll: Absolutely. So they're not afraid of humans and they'll show up like a regular housecat. County road and all of a sudden a big cat jumps out of the woods over a stone wall stood in the middle of the dirt road as I rode towards it. Wed love to be part of the first verified sighting. Peter Biello: And then it ran away okay. However if if and when it does happen it takes up a lot of resources looking at that situation and identifying what's going on because when you start out you don't know it's a hoax. There were several sightings in CT over the last few months.
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